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Subtlety Rogue Raid Talent Tree

The most popular Subtlety Rogue Talent Tree in WoW - TWW. Data-driven builds updated daily for Loom'ithar in The War Within Pre-Patch. Disclaimers & FAQ
Last updated: 10 hours agoTotal Parses: 711Based on the top 1000 kills in the last 14 days.

Subtlety Rogue Hero Talents

The most popular Subtlety Rogue hero talent tree is Deathstalker with 75.5% usage.

1. Deathstalker: 36.8k
Deathstalker
75.576%
Lingering Darkness
98.498%
Bait and Switch
70.070%
Shadewalker
90.090%
Momentum of Despair
94.595%
2. Trickster: 32.7k
Trickster
24.424%
Smoke
100.0100%
So Tricky
88.789%
Thousand Cuts
99.499%
No Scruples
97.297%

Recommended Subtlety Rogue Talent Tree Build

This is the most recommended Subtlety Rogue talent build for Normal Raid on Loom'ithar. Our recommendation is based on the combined popularity of the Spec & Hero Trees (as these usually contain the most significant choices) and then by the popularity of Class Trees that use those Spec & Hero Trees.

Spec & Hero Popularity
51.8%
DPS
39.1k
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ClassTalents
Blind
Cloak of Shadows
Shiv
Thrill Seeking
Airborne Irritant
Fleet Footed
Shadowrunner
Toxic Stiletto
Master Poisoner
Tricks of the Trade
Cheat Death
Improved Wound Poison
Improved Sprint
Nimble Fingers
Quick Fingers
Deadened Nerves
Iron Stomach
Virulent Poisons
Graceful Guile
Evasion
Stillshroud
Superior Mixture
Featherfoot
Deadly Precision
Atrophic Poison
Unbreakable Stride
Deep Cuts
Improved Ambush
Swift Slasher
Danger Sense
Recuperator
Soothing Darkness
Lethality
Alacrity
Leeching Poison
Supercharger
Subterfuge
Vigor
Forced Induction
Cold Blooded Killer
Deeper Stratagem
Thistle Tea
Without a Trace
Deathstalker
Deathstalker
Lingering Darkness
Ethereal CloakBait and Switch
ShadewalkerShroud of Night
Momentum of DespairFollow the Blood
SpecTalents
Find Weakness
Improved Shuriken Storm
Shadow Blades
Improved Backstab
Premeditation
Quick DecisionsEphemeral Bond
Silent Storm
Shrouded in Darkness
Exhilarating Execution
Night TerrorsTerrifying Pace
Fade to Nothing
Gloomblade
Relentless Strikes
Improved Secret Technique
Master of Shadows
Shadow Focus
Warning Signs
Shuriken Tornado
Secret Stratagem
Shadowed Finishers
Weaponmaster
Double Dance
Veiltouched
Replicating Shadows
Deepening Shadows
The First Dance
Umbral Edge
Improved Find Weakness
Perforated Veins
Potent Powder
Deeper Daggers
Lingering Shadow
Death Perception
Finality
Dark Shadow
The Rotten
Dark Brew
Danse Macabre
Shadowcraft
Goremaw's Bite
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Alternative Class Talents Trees

The above Class Tree is the most popular in combination with the Spec & Hero Tree. Here's the list of other popular Class Trees used with this Spec & Hero Tree.

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PopularityAddedRemoved
76.4%
Currently SelectedCurrently Selected
3.5%
Tight Spender
Improved Ambush
3.3%
Cold Blooded KillerLethality
Forced Induction
Supercharger
1.4%
Unbreakable Stride
Airborne Irritant

Alternative Builds

You can find alternative Subtlety Rogue talent builds here. They will be a little less popular or performant than the recommended one, but may help you adapt to the needs of your group.

Alternative Build #1

Spec & Hero Popularity
7.3%
DPS
30.6k
Top Log
Open Report
AddedRemoved
RogueClass Talents
ShivTight Spender
Improved Ambush
Airborne Irritant
Hero Talents
None
None
Rogue SubtletySpec Talents
Finality
Improved Secret Technique

Alternative Build #2

Spec & Hero Popularity
6.6%
DPS
25.0k
Top Log
Open Report
AddedRemoved
RogueClass Talents
NoneNone
Hero Talents
Trickster
So Tricky
Thousand Cuts
Deathstalker
Lingering Darkness
Rogue SubtletySpec Talents
Planned Execution
Potent Powder
WeaponmasterWarning Signs

Alternative Build #3

Spec & Hero Popularity
3.1%
DPS
22.5k
Top Log
Open Report
AddedRemoved
RogueClass Talents
ShivTight Spender
Improved Ambush
Airborne Irritant
Hero Talents
Trickster
So Tricky
Thousand Cuts
Deathstalker
Lingering Darkness
Rogue SubtletySpec Talents
Shuriken TornadoPotent Powder
Improved Secret TechniqueWeaponmaster

Top 100 Subtlety Rogue Talents

We've built a heatmap of the Subtlety Rogue talents from the top 100 rankings. This should help you pick the most impactful talents and give you ideas on how to adapt your talents to your playstyle.

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